All Rights Reserved. For example, the Palmetto State Armory Freedom 16″ AR-15 Carbine’s phosphate coating is durable, but rough. This article is part 5 of a 5-part series about AR-15 barrels. Ballistic Advantage, Faxon, and Rosco Barrels are manufactured in the U.S.A by hardworking men passionate about barrel-making. A Nickel Boron BCG with its slick surface will clean up quite a bit easier and faster than a standard BCG with a phosphate finish. I use PSA 20 in CHF barrel one of my rifles and get about 1 to 1.5 groupings at 100 yrds non free floated. Cheapest available in the twist and contour I wanted from a maker I trust. December 2016 in General Firearms #1. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. 01-12-17, 12:00 #4. wildcard600. There wear resistance part is a wash too, the only parts of the carrier that applies to are the pads which ride in the reciever. Nitride chromoly vs stainless barrels Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by AznZOhAn, Aug 26, 2012. They both shoot steel etc no issues. Phosphate has been serving the military well for many years and it works very well. It'll have an A2-ish profile. For the … Nitriding has several trade names such as Melonite, Tenifer, QPQ, Salt Bath Nitride, and others. That means its good inside the AR-15 or on the outside. I have two of the $259 kits I bought, both with the phosphate barrel. You're no daisy at all. Melonite is a form of nitriding so it's really asking phosphate vs. nitrided. Leave a Reply Cancel reply. Barrels 2, 3, 588, and 590B were … Poor soul, you were just too high strung." Not the best picture. Psa premium are fine bcg. Does the ones you're looking that list phosphate also list it as "chrome lining: no"?? Theory aside, has anyone actually experienced any negative effects that can be attributed to the inferior phosphate finish? Nitride has the edge when it comes to smoothness and hardness. We're going to find out at what point this rifle will fail and take a look at what the barrel will look like when we get done with it. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. No chrome lining on the bore. www.sst.net Chrome Lining vs. Salt Bath Nitriding: Which Barrel Finish Is Better? That should answer your question unless the newer gens have different barrels. Reason #3 - Aesthetic Palmetto State Armory Nitride Barrel Accuracy Test: Initial Run . The two standard barrels with nitride bores were procured from Manufacturer X and were second in erosion resistance in that these barrels were fired 29, 874 and 26, 774 rounds before rejection. Cerakote vs. Nitride The Corrosion Resistance King In a head-to-head test, Cerakote was put up against Nitride in a salt chamber to see which would be the most corrosion-resistant. Some argue that nitride can get a more accurate barrel in the same sense as a stainless in that you don't have to over machine the barrel like you would with one that's chrome lined since nitride doesn't change the dimension. Rubbing against anodized aluminum that has the hardness approaching tungsten carbide is going to wear away NiB too. To protect the outside of the barrel, a phosphate coating is typically added. These are PSA Freedom Hammer Forged Barrels - Nitride treated. •Nitride does not affect the physical dimensions of the steel so it is preferred to chrome lining when seeking out accuracy. I'm kind of excited to shoot out my phosphate PSA bbls. As far as nitrided barrels go, numerous barrels in the IC Featured this and none showed any marked increase in barrel life. I have a PSA 10.5" nitride upper on an AR pistol (Anderson lower, PSA pistol built kit) with no complaints, it has eaten everything I've fed it thus far. Back quick to the cm vs the ss question. More. Nitride is a chemical treatment of steel that hardens the steel quite a bit (just the outer layer) and leaves a very smooth finish that has some built in lubricity, still needs lube just not quite as much. Mag phos typically has a matte grey finish. Aug 26, 2012 #1 . Personally, meh. Perfect for target shooters and hog hunters, the 6.5 Grendel is known for its extreme accuracy and top-tier ballistic performance. Chrome lined barrels are typically phosphate parkerized to protect the exterior steel from rusting, but this exterior finish does not offer the same level of corrosion resistance offered by the salt bath nitriding treatment. Both extend life similarly. I am about 75% done with my first build. The BCG on the right gives you a sense of what the rougher texture phosphate looks like. Nitride has many advantages but it is not mil-spec for BCGs and that is an important consideration for some. It looks like you're new here. Remember, the surface of the bore alters its chemical structure to become a harder material. in order for me when talking about durability. At the end of the day this is not a huge reason to choose a Nickel Boron BCG, it's just a little benny that comes along for the ride. AznZOhAn New Member. id like to know if their barrels are decent quality and will last a good amount of classes or atleast good enough to outperform me as a crappy shooter lol, so i can afford to take more classes to get better . Have a similar one in nitrate that shoots fine. You should retry this using a 55gr cartridge instead. AR barrels: Parkerizing/Phosphate vs. Nitride/Melonite. The nitride barrel life is all dependent on how you treat it. Nickel Boron. ELD Performance LR-308 16" .308, Carbine Gas, .750 Gas, Tapered Profile, 1-10T Nitride Barrel $219.99 $149.99 KAK Industry 8" 9MM Skinny Profile 1-10 T Nitride Finish Barrel That is due to the way phosphorus reacts with low carbon, which can cause embrittlement. Thanks! The nitride will resist corrosion better and likely last for more rounds. I have a 10 year old phosphate BCG that I NP3’d for 3Gun, still looks good after thousands of rounds a year for 10 years. What I am saying is that unlike chrome, it doesn't make the barrel's accuracy WORSE. AR-15. Steve Ostrem goes over the benefits and features of the chrome lined (military) and standard barrels and what is right for you. 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Have both CL and Nitride barrels, all function as intended and are accurate. Nitride: Nitride is used to harden the metal which vicariously increases the lifespan of the barrel. Black Nitride goes by a few names, Ferritic Nitrocarburizing, Melonite, SBN "salt bath nitriding", QCP and Tenifer, that are all names for the same thing, the only difference would be Tenifer, this process is used in Europe with a different cyanide formulation bath "EPA wont allow that in the US". Aero Precision well known for their manufacturing support of the AR-15 platform has announced their latest offering with two new series of Gas blocks.. This AR15 barrel features 5/8×24 tpi threads, and a chamber and gas port optimized for reliability. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. breamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,511 Senior Member. The rest of the series can be found at the links below: Part 1: Intro, Fundamentals, and Manufacturing of AR Barrels As a final step, nitrided barrels are treated with a black oxide finish and can be high gloss or matte depending on the blasting process prior to black oxide. View Profile View Forum Posts View Articles … A barrel that is nitrided is going to be more accurate that a chrome lined barrel because chrome plating takes away some of the sharpness of the rifling. Accuracy testing can be a chore, but this is more of a mini-assessment. These barrels were designated N1 and N2, respectively. We're going to find out at what point this rifle will fail and take a look at what the barrel will look like when we get done with it. -- Clint Smith. Today I have a mini post to share with you some light accuracy testing of the PSA 20 inch nitrided barrel assembly. I took apart the free-floating 5.56 and Wylde. ELD Performance LR-308 16" .308, Carbine Gas, .750 Gas, Tapered Profile, 1-10T Nitride Barrel $219.99 $149.99 KAK Industry 8" 9MM Skinny Profile 1-10 T Nitride Finish Barrel Nitride is supposed to be a little tougher and I like the smooth look. Because of the silvery color it's also easier to see where the dirt is and you also know when it is clean much easier than with a black nitride or phosphate BCG. I am thinking about buying a Remington Seven, Savage, or Tikka rifle and getting the rifle finished with something weather resistant. NitrideInstead of adding material to the bore (like Chrome … That being said, our nitride barrel life span for average use is 12,000 rounds. PSA has some great prices, but I'm not sure of the practical differences between the phosphate and nitride finish. 08-10-2018, 01:56 PM #2. When searching for a bolt carrier group to purchase, you will run across NiB or nickel boron. Remember this temperature for later. Chrome lined barrels are typically phosphate parkerized to protect the exterior steel from rusting, but this exterior finish does not offer the same level of corrosion resistance offered by the salt bath nitriding treatment. That backs up … I have like 5. Budget-conscious buyers who want something that works and can overlook some details like perfect finishing and dead-on accuracy With the barrel you have on this upper it is a 1:7 twist meant to stabilize 55gr and larger bullets. Both are reliable and accurate. razorback2003 Member. In order to apply coatings like chrome, dlc, or nickel boron, parts must be made under tolerance, to account for the surface coating that will be going on top. Got one of the Black Friday deals, 10.5 nitride with a KAC shockwave and MOE furniture. Copyright © 1996-2021 AR15.COM LLC. Proud Deplorable. If ... Phosphate (3) QPQ Nitride (98) Black Teflon (2) I own several PSA BCG's and they have all held up just fine with no problems, would not hesitate to buy more. These Ar15 gas blocks are available in a black nitride finish or a standard MILSPEC phosphate coating. Doc Holliday. The maximum erosion life of the standard unplated barrels in this test was 12, 476 rounds for Barrel S11. by Steve Adelmann - Saturday, December 30, 2017. Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. HC and nitride coating cause the same substrate cracking. We stock a huge selection of barrels ready to ship right away; trust Arm or Ally© has you covered! AR barrels: Parkerizing/Phosphate vs. Nitride/Melonite. You can nitride a 4140 barrel and it will hold up very well, often almost as long as a 4150 barrel that is chrome lined. Over time, it tends to catch tiny debris and it’s little harsher on the surrounding aluminum receiver. Only downside to nitride barrels are they do not break in over time, once you do you initial break in, the grouping you get is all your ever going to get until the barrel life has ended. The nitriding process serves to enhance corrosion resistance on both the interior and exterior of the barrel. Nitride is billed as doing everything that chrome does but cheaper and supposedly has an advantage in that it's a treatment as supposed to a layer upon the metal like chrome plating. It'll have an A2-ish profile. Stainless steel barrels are used for long range accuracy. Phosphate vs Nitride Barrel. Get the top Guns & Ammo stories delivered right to your inbox every week. 1 review for 18″ / 6.5 Grendel / 1:8. Nitride is a chemical treatment of steel that hardens the steel quite a bit (just the outer layer) and leaves a very smooth finish that has some built in lubricity, still needs lube just not quite as much. "Do not overthink it, gentlemen. Rated 5 out of 5. Chrome is far more expensive to dispose of since it is incredibly toxic. If you want that smooth feeling you get from a nitride bcg I’d recomend using a nitride carrier from a reputable company paired with a mil spec phosphate bolt and extractor. Nitriding is a surface conversion process whereby manufacturers submerge the barrel in a nitrogen-sodium solution and heat to a high temperature, u sually between 750 and 1200 degrees. The rest of the series can be found at the links below: Part 1: Intro, Fundamentals, and Manufacturing of AR Barrels Phosphate is just fine, requires plenty of lube, but will last a long time. Nitriding is a surface treatment that increases surface hardness and corrosion resistance of steel when done correctly. I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure. The new Freedom Hammer Forged barrels are not made by FN, they are PSA barrels. In theory one can take a 4140 steel barrel and nitride it and it should perform the same as a nitride treated 4150 steel barrel as both hardness level will be the same. I'm sure this has been asked before. id like to know if their barrels are decent quality and will last a good amount of classes or atleast good enough to outperform me as a crappy shooter lol, so i can afford to take more classes to get better . I'm saying that nitriding DOESN'T make a barrel more accurate. There wear resistance part is a wash too, the only parts of the carrier that applies to are the pads which ride in the reciever. SUBSCRIBE. Nitride VS Cerakote. Would you nitride/melonite a rifle or cerakote one? Aug 26, 2012 #1 . Gas System Length: Midlength. Barrel nitriding and polishing creates a black coating that is resistant to corrosion and withstands extreme temperatures. Took these pictures at the range on 10/11/18: You have to look hard to see the case head in the chamber, but I wanted to capture the Saint on the BC too. The Pros and Cons of Nitride Barrel Finishes. Upper. breamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,511 Senior Member. It'll have an A2-ish profile. I'm kinda leaning nitride on price and increased corrosion resistance. Another popular barrel treatment is phosphate coating. South Texas Arms (verified owner) – August 25, 2020. No chrome lining on the bore. We purchased one of these barrels for a repeat customer of ours in which we built a custom rifle. Black Nitride is becoming more common and slowly replacing the parkerizing of steel parts. All Rights Reserved. Smith and Wesson nitrides stainless steel for their M&P line. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. However a phosphate BCG against a carbon steel or stainless steel barrel is not a good idea. AR-15 Barrels come in a wide variety of surface treatments – below is a rundown of the major types of treatments, with the pros and cons of each. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. In theory one can take a 4140 steel barrel and nitride it and it should perform the same as a nitride treated 4150 steel barrel as both hardness level will be the same. Say you're going to buy a 16" chrome moly barrel for you AR, use will be general shooting, plinking, toting around and shooting. ©2020 Outdoor Sportsman Group. I know Glock and Walther basically nitride carbon steel. But if the nitride barrel is 4150 and the phosphate barrel is 4140, then there is no debate at all, go with the 4150 steel that is also nitride treated. Barrel Length: 18" Twist Rate: 1:8. Nitride chromoly vs stainless barrels Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by AznZOhAn, Aug 26, 2012. 633 0 0. CL barrels are FN and Colt, Nitride are BA and PSA (the 10.5", probably made by BA but not certain). Straight gas tubes… Smooth is fast, fast is smooth; I've never seen a stopwatch in a gun fight. It has standard handguards and A2 flash hider. In a PSA build, I’d choose nitride over plain (non chrome lined) parkerized barrel. If you are in need of a barrel nitriding service look no further! This is where the rubber meets the roa d. The real benefit of nitriding is that you get better corrosion resistance than chrome, on both the inside and outside, at a lower cost, without affecting accuracy. The rough phosphate tends to hold the dirt and grit while the Nickel Boron doesn’t seem to as much. When you compare phosphate vs nitride, this inexpensive option is used in military applications due to its low cost and extreme durability. -T Jefferson. This is a hard coat anodized and forged 7075-T6 A3 AR upper. I would have preferred the nitride barrels, but both time I went to order they were OOS. Posted On: 31st January 2020; By: lothaen; With 4 Comments; Hello, frenz. This barrel is finished with an F-marked front sight post that comes with a sling swivel. Palmetto State Armory 10.5'' Nitride 5.56 AR-15 Pistol: The Best Truck Gun? There for corrosion protection and nothing else. Barrel Nitriding vs Chrome Lining. That means its good inside the AR-15 or on the outside. It's only a gunfight, not an IRS tax audit." HC and nitride coating cause the same substrate cracking. Joined: Aug 24, 2008 Messages: 1,231. Chrome has excellent corrosion and abrasion resistant properties, but only coats the inside of the barrel. It did not drop fit in and they needed to have a gun smith custom fit the barrel which I opted to hold off. That being said, our nitride barrel life span for average use is 12,000 rounds. Melonite and nitride are the same thing and better than phosphate. -Fits barrels with .750 Outer Diameter-Constructed from 4150 hardened steel-Choose No Aero Logo or Aero “A” Logo blocks-Nitride or Phosphate coating-Low profile for easy fitment-Set Screws are Steel 10-32 x 3/16 Knurled Cup Point-Made in the USA-*Roll pin not included* To learn more about Aero Precision and their new Nitride and Phosphate AR15 Gas Blocks. The nitride barrel life is all dependent on how you treat it. CLICK HERE . One thing that makes Nitriding Superior the disposal cost of what is not used. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Mega has 416R stainless barrels that are nitride treated. On my first build I have a Vltor MUR upper, Mega forged lower, Noveske NSR handguard, Loki weapons lower parts kits, and a Loki 16" nitrided chromoly barrel. Is very innacurate. Each barrel was placed in the salt chamber and after just 8 hours the Nitride finish barrel began to show signs of corrosion. Phosphate is just fine, requires plenty of lube, but will last a long time. PSA Barrel Coatings. The nitriding process serves to enhance corrosion resistance on both the interior and exterior of the barrel. Only downside to nitride barrels are they do not break in over time, once you do you initial break in, the grouping you get is all your ever going to get until the barrel … The M4 profile barrel is phosphate coated to Mil-Spec and has been High Pressure tested as well as Magnetic Particle inspected. Nitride (two left black ones) is smooth while stainless is…stainless. I have both from them. Machined from 4150 chrome moly steel with a 1:8 twist rate and nitride finish, this barrel will deliver round after round consistently and accurately. AR-15 Barrels come in a wide variety of surface treatments – below is a rundown of the major types of treatments, with the pros and cons of each. Nitride. You will still get carbon build up … Cerakote vs. Nitride The Corrosion Resistance King In a head-to-head test, Cerakote was put up against Nitride in a salt chamber to see which would be the most corrosion-resistant. Phosphate coating isn’t the best finish for durability and reliability but it ‘s good enough for the vast amount of people. What are your thoughts and experiences? Most chrome moly barrels that were parkerized in days past are now melonited, which is a fancy name for black nitride. The only negative thing I have found with this process on AR barrels is that if one is assembled into the barrel extension incorrectly, the barrel may actually unscrew from the extension. Each barrel was placed in the salt chamber and after just 8 hours the Nitride finish barrel began to show signs of corrosion. You get a more heat resistant steel and have the bonus of nitride treatment for hardness and corrosion resistance. MIL-SPEC is manganese phosphate, which requires oil to provide excellent corrosion resistance on the outside of the barrel. Aero Precision is also offering these AR15 gas blocks in .750, .625,.875, and .936 diameters.. This might be part of the accuracy problem using a 52gr bullet for this upper. However a phosphate BCG against a carbon steel or stainless steel barrel is not a good idea. We've made ammunition test barrels in both c.m. I watched mr gunsngears meltdown video. Stainless steel barrels are used for long range accuracy. If you’re past the first AR-15 and want to dive into the world of customization, or even building your own, then this article is for you. So I'm wanting to build a pistol, PSA lists 10.5 inch uppers one Nitride and one Phosphate what is the difference. Phosphate vs Nitride finish; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. It also requires less lubricant to work well and is easier to clean. It'll be scoped, 9x on the top end at the maximum. Black Nitride. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”. The advantages of a phosphate vs nitride barrel is outlined here. The barrel was a mk25 edition with phosphate coating and chrome lined. Share this: … I accidentally  purchased a phosphate 223 Wilde barrel. Phosphate is the standard finish. 99% sure Op is talking about an unlined phosphate bbl verses Nitride bbl. First off, I am an amateur shooter and just enjoy doing this sort of thing on the weekends. I am about 75% done with my first build. This was the case of the Greeks and Romans and must be that of every free state. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Hence, nitride is the superior treatment unless you have a … Proud Poop Flinging Gremlin. You still have to get a good blank. Say you're going to buy a 16" chrome moly barrel for you AR, use will be general shooting, plinking, toting around and shooting. and s.s. and in accuracy and pressure test barrels and all the feed back I've received back from ammo and bullet makers is that for the most part they see no difference. That has the twist/profile & gas system length I want. The inside of the barrel is what I am most concerned with in addition to the finish on a rifle used in bad weather. Every citizen should be a soldier. This is the next logical step in non-chrome lined barrels, bringing the durability of hammer forged barrel steel to the affordable and accurate Freedom line of uppers. Nitride: Nitride is used to harden the metal which vicariously increases the lifespan of the barrel. - Criterion Barrels Say you're going to buy a 16" chrome moly barrel for you AR, use will be general shooting, plinking, toting around and shooting. Phosphate coating can be applied to both the barrel and bolt … This is the description from sig's website for the 516: "With its chrome-lined, phosphated, military grade barrel and adjustable, four-position gas regulator, the SIG516 incorporates all of the most desirable mechanical improvements." Thread Status: Not open for further replies. Nitride treats both the inside and the outside of the barrel and does not require any oils to provide the best corrosion protection. Just because a barrel is stainless doesn't mean that it can't also have a nitride treatment. This article is part 5 of a 5-part series about AR-15 barrels. Thread Pattern: 5/8 x 24. "You're no daisy! Rubbing against anodized aluminum that has the hardness approaching tungsten carbide is going to wear away NiB too. Thompson Center cerakotes carbon steel rifles but I don't think they put anything down the barrel to protect it. they are 4150v steel, but are not chrome lined and just phosphate finished. 633 0 0. Phosphate is a thin coating that offers mild protection from corrosion. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons! AznZOhAn New Member. Sample size of 2, YMMV. Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by razorback2003, Aug 23, 2015. The black nitride treatment is very durable and highly resistant to wear and it will not flake because it is not a coating. I used a Nitrite BCG in my last build, after a few thousand rounds looks like new. December 2016 in General Firearms #1. Back in stock a day or so later of course. Still need a buffer assembly, bolt … If everything is the same except for the coating on the outside of the barrel I am buying the cheaper one. 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